without God, that is, “autonomously” or “neutrally.” So at the very outset of an apologetic argument, they concede the whole game. They adopt a presupposition contrary to the conclusion they wish to argue. They seek to gain knowledge of God by adopting a nontheistic epistemology. The only alternative, Van Til argued, is to adopt a theistic epistemology when arguing for the existence of God. Kant answered the question “What are the conditions required for an intelligible universe?” with his phenomena-noumena